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Re: [Bacula-devel] [Bacula-users] Bacula Status


On Friday 03 October 2008 21:13:07 Ulrich Leodolter wrote:
> On Fri, 2008-10-03 at 20:22 +0200, Kern Sibbald wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > It is not too late to change the name of the directive, but I would like
> > to see some discussion/input on this.  Although I don't have any strong
> > attachment to "Ignore Dir",  I think I personally prefer it to "Exclude
> > Flag File", which will be harder for me to remember.
>
> Hello,
>
> A nice feature would be if wild, wildir, wildfile strings
> can be read from client file.
>
> Exclude {
>   Client Wild = .bacula_exclude
> }
>
> /some/dir/on/client/.bacula_exclude:
> .svn
> *.iso
>
>
> If its not too late

It is never too late, but yes, it *probably* is too late for the next release 
because the developers are not adding new features, so any such change would 
need to be contributed code.

The best way to ensure that such suggestions are not lost is to following the 
feature request procedure:  www.bacula.org -> Feature Requests

However, I might say that I am not too enthusiastic about adding such an 
option because it removes the control from the Director (i.e. changes the 
fundamental Bacula design philosophy that says that the Director should 
determine what is backed up).

The current "Ignore Dir" code was very cleverly designed and written by a user 
to respect the concept that the Director is the central point of control.  It 
allows the Director to control exactly where such "user" defined exclusion 
files can be put, so the sys admin has the ability to ensure that particular 
directories are always backed up regardless of the presence of the "flag" 
file or not.

Best regards,

Kern

> Ulrich
>
> > Comments?
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Kern
> >
> > On Friday 03 October 2008 19:19:07 Marc Schiffbauer wrote:
> > > * Dan Langille schrieb am 02.10.08 um 23:02 Uhr:
> > >
> > > Hi Dan,
> > >
> > > > On Oct 2, 2008, at 3:04 PM, Marc Schiffbauer wrote:
> > > > >Ignore Dir
> > > > >
> > > > >A note on whether this directive works recursive or not
> > > > >would be fine.
> > > >
> > > > Recursive?
> > > >
> > > > As in 'ignore this directory' but take all its children?
> > > >
> > > > Sorry, that's not an ignore.  ;)
> > >
> > > Full ack, but just to be 100% sure ;)
> > >
> > > > Point taken though.  It reduces the number of questions.
> > >
> > > yes, thanks.
> > >
> > > > But regardless, if people are so inclined, hunting down the text
> > > > and supplying a patch helps a great deal.
> > >
> > > Yes, I used to do that. Sorry that I did not this time.
> > >
> > > > >(And I personally would find "Exclude Flag File" more intuitive as
> > > > >"Exclude" is the bacula terminology to to ignore files or
> > > > >directories...)
> > > >
> > > > FWIW, you can name the file anything you want.
> > >
> > > I did not mean the value of the directive but the name of the
> > > directive itself.
> > >
> > > Everywhere in the FileSet in Bacula you use the word "Exclude" when
> > > dealing with files that will not be backed up. So I suggest to
> > > follow this terminology instead of introducing a synonym.
> > > I think this will increase usability.
> > >
> > > So I think
> > >
> > >   Exclude Flag File = .no_backup
> > >
> > > would be more intuitive about what it does than
> > >
> > >   Ignore Dir = .no_backup
> > >
> > >
> > > Also I think because of using the word 'Dir' many people would expect
> > > this to be a directory which will be ignored and will try something
> > > like this:
> > >
> > >   Ignore Dir = /tmp
> > >
> > > will will be nonsense of course ;)
> > >
> > > -Marc
> >
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