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Re: [Bacula-devel] [Bacula-users] Bacula Status


On Friday 03 October 2008 02:46:25 Hemant Shah wrote:
> --- On Thu, 10/2/08, Kern Sibbald <kern@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > From: Kern Sibbald <kern@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re: [Bacula-devel] [Bacula-users] Bacula Status
> > To: bacula-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, hjrrs@xxxxxxxxx
> > Cc: "bacula-users" <bacula-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
> > bacula-users-fr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Thursday, October 2, 2008,
> > 2:37 PM
> >
> > On Thursday 02 October 2008 17:39:25 Hemant Shah wrote:
> > > Kern,
> > >
> > >   When you add these features to the on-line
> >
> > documentation, it would be
> >
> > > nice if there was a tag (maybe in the left margin)
> >
> > that provided the
> >
> > > version of bacula that supported that option.
> > >
> > >   From reading this userlist I have noticed that many
> >
> > users install
> >
> > > whatever is available in the software repository,
> >
> > which are old versions,
> >
> > > and there are few users who stay one version behind
> >
> > for stability. When
> >
> > > they read the documentation it is not clear whether a
> >
> > given option is
> >
> > > supported in their version of bacula.
> >
> > Adding a tag in the left margin is too hard to get correct
> > and means a lot of
> > maintenance at least at this point with the limited
> > manpower we have.
> >
> > However, we hope to soon have multiple versions of the
> > manual on the web site
> > so that you can consult the manual that corresponds to your
> > version.
>
>   I am not sure how the manual is generated, maybe adding version in
> paranthesis after the option would be easy:
>
> e.g.  IgnoreDir (V3.0.0)
>
> This way you only have to maintain one manual and if someone is reading a
> manual and is using older version, he/she can easily make a decision
> whether he/she should upgrade to the new version in order to use the new
> option.

I am sorry, but we are not going to do it that way because of the amount of 
work involved, and the "messiness" it would cause.  I am sorry, I just don't 
have the time to go into a detailed explanation.   Each version of the manual 
is separate, and it is already hard enough to keep that up to date, and 
mixing them is a mess -- we have already put version numbers in the text, and 
in my opinion it is not a good idea.

The things that we will do:
- we have a project to put all versions of the manual up on the web site, so 
it will be much easier to find your version.

- I'll look at putting the version on the top of each page.

- We have made a new chapter (much more work) that explicitly lists and 
describes the new features in the next version.  If the final work is not too 
much (it will not be easy), we will continue this.

Kern

>
> > Regards,
> >
> > Kern
> >
> > >   Thanks.
> > >
> > > Hemant Shah
> > > E-mail: hjrrs@xxxxxxxxx
> > >
> > > --- On Thu, 10/2/08, Kern Sibbald
> >
> > <kern@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > From: Kern Sibbald <kern@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > Subject: [Bacula-users] Bacula Status
> > > > To: "bacula-users"
> >
> > <bacula-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >
> > > > Cc: "bacula-devel"
> >
> > <bacula-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
> >
> > > > bacula-users-fr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date:
> >
> > Thursday, October 2, 2008,
> >
> > > > 6:49 AM
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > I would like to give you a status of where the
> >
> > Bacula
> >
> > > > project is as I see it
> > > > and where we are going.
> > > >
> > > > Current release:
> > > >
> > > > The current production release is 2.4.2, and it
> >
> > seems quite
> >
> > > > stable. There are
> > > > a few patches against it, so we will be releasing
> >
> > a bug fix
> >
> > > > 2.4.3 update
> > > > shortly that has all those patches integrated.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Development version:
> > > >
> > > > Our development version 2.5.x (to be released as
> >
> > 3.0.0) is
> >
> > > > progressing quite
> > > > nicely.  We are documenting the features that we
> >
> > have
> >
> > > > added, testing them,
> > > > and in a few cases, completing the
> >
> > implementation.  The
> >
> > > > feature set is
> > > > probably the most important of any release to
> >
> > date, and if
> >
> > > > you are
> > > > interested, please take a look at our preliminary
> > > > documentation at:
> >
> > http://www.bacula.org/manuals/en/concepts/concepts/New_Features.html
> >
> > > > If all goes as planned, we will release a beta
> >
> > version of
> >
> > > > 2.5.x in the next
> > > > week or so, and the final release will be made
> >
> > around the
> >
> > > > end of the year.
> > > > 2.5.x is proving quite stable, but some of the
> >
> > new features
> >
> > > > as expected need
> > > > a bit more fine tuning.  Fortunately, we already
> >
> > have a few
> >
> > > > beta testers
> > > > (including myself) who are using the new features
> >
> > (Accurate
> >
> > > > backup, Copy,
> > > > plugins, ...) and are reporting back to us.
> > > >
> > > > Good news:
> > > >
> > > > As most of you know, I have been the only full
> >
> > time
> >
> > > > developer working on
> > > > Bacula since the beginning.  However, we now have
> >
> > a second
> >
> > > > person, Eric
> > > > Bollengier, who  since the beginning of October
> >
> > is
> >
> > > > dedicated to the Bacula
> > > > project.  I am really pleased with this, and you
> >
> > probably
> >
> > > > already know that
> > > > Eric has already made very significant
> >
> > contributions of
> >
> > > > code in the past,
> > > > starting in early 2003 and  has implemented a
> >
> > substantial
> >
> > > > number of the new
> > > > features in version 2.5.x.
> > > > Welcome aboard Eric!  :-)
> > > >
> > > > More good news:
> > > >
> > > > You have probably read some of my previous emails
> >
> > about
> >
> > > > creating a
> > > > professional services company to be able to
> >
> > satisfy the
> >
> > > > needs of enterprises
> > > > and thus accellerate the acceptance of Bacula in
> >
> > the
> >
> > > > commercial world.  It
> > > > has taken an enormous effort, and as I mentioned,
> >
> > it has
> >
> > > > temporarily diverted
> > > > about 50% of my energies from the Bacula project
> >
> > for the
> >
> > > > last six months, but
> > > > I believe the final benefits will far outweight
> >
> > the
> >
> > > > temporary costs.  For
> > > > example, having Eric dedicated to the Bacula
> >
> > project was
> >
> > > > made possible by the
> > > > existence of this new company.  Creating the
> >
> > company has
> >
> > > > been two years in
> > > > the making, and now this professional services
> >
> > company is
> >
> > > > now a reality, and
> > > > I will be officially announcing it next week, and
> >
> > I think
> >
> > > > you will be pleased
> > > > how we have structured it.
> > > >
> > > > Best regards,
> > > >
> > > > Kern
> >
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